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What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 19, 2016 01:11AM
I own the following stones, etc. I admit I have a tendency to collect the things that I like. I like sharpening stones.
My collecting has come to an abrupt halt. I was laid off from work and had to retire 2 years before I was ready.
The stones I use the most are the DMT Dia-Sharps. The others sit on a shelf most of the time.

2x Imanishi Pink Brick 220
1x Red Brick 1K
1x Naniwa Aotoshi 2k Green Brick
1x Nubatama Bamboo 150
1x 140 Grit Diamond Plate (cheap)
1x 400/1000 Grit Diamond Plate (cheap)
1x Nubatama Ume 1K Large
1x Nubatama Ume 180 Grit
1x Nubatama Ume XXC Aratae 24 Grit
2x King 1000 grit
1x King 6000 grit

1x Lansky sharpening kit 5 stone

2 ea. Sigma power ceramic stone #120
2 ea. Suehiro 'Chemical' stone, #320
1 ea. Atoma diamond plate, #1200 grit
1 ea. Atoma diamond plate, #400 grit
1 ea. Atoma diamond plate, #140 grit
1 ea. Naniwa Ebi brand superstone 20mm #800
1 ea. Naniwa Ebi brand superstone 20mm #400
1 ea. King Neo ST-3 #800

1x 240x Sigma Power Select II Ceramic Water Stone
1x 1000x Sigma Power Select II Ceramic Water Stone
1x 3000x Sigma Power Select II Ceramic Water Stone

2X Norton Crystolon Coarse
2X Norton Crystolon Medium
2X Norton Crystolon Fine

1x Norton Ecomomy
1x Task

1x DMT Dia-Sharp 120 Micron 8" X 3"
1x DMT Dia-Sharp Extra Coarse 8" X 3"
1x DMT Dia-Sharp Coarse 8" X 3"
1x DMT Dia-Sharp Fine 8" X 3"
1x DMT Dia-Sharp Extra Fine 8" X 3"

1x Atoma Diamond Plate #140
1x Atoma Diamond Plate #400
1x Atoma Diamond Plate #1200

2X Smith's Diamond Sharpening Steel Coarse
1X Smith's Diamond Sharpening Steel Fine

2X Smith's Diamond Bench Stone Coarse
1X Smith's Diamond Bench Stone Fine

Spyderco Sharpmaker basic kit (medium, fine?)

In addition, I have several others that are listed individually..
Norton India,
Natural stones
Eze-Lap steels and small plates Coarse, Medium, & Fine
RazorEdge system, including steels
Several pull through carbide sharpeners
Several straight carbide sharpeners
Others I don't remember.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2016 08:40PM by curmudgeon.
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 19, 2016 01:44AM
I'm waiting for Stefan Wolf to list his collection, that will probably take up the page.

My collection:

2x Norton Economy SiC stones

1x Norton India Combo

1x 6 in DMT XC

1x 6 in DMT Fine

1x 6 in DMT XF

Spyderco Sharpmaker

2x Spyderco CBN rods

2x Spyderco Medium rods

1x Pinnacle soft Arkansas

1x Naniwa Superstone 400

1x King 1K/6K


What I actually use:


1x King 1K/6K

2x Norton Economy SiC stones

1x Norton India Combo

1x Pinnacle soft Arkansas

2x Spyderco Medium rods

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Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 19, 2016 01:44AM
Wow. This is the kind of list I fear myself making one day. I'm trying to keep things reasonable and get to a progression that I can stick with for a long time. Currently I am fooling myself into thinking if I buy the SPSII 240 and 3000 (to go with the 1000 I just bought) I'll be done. But the Suehiro 320 and SP 120 look interesting...
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 19, 2016 02:31AM
I will have to take inventory, I have a bunch like everyone else.

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Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 19, 2016 02:52AM
Jason: Ha. But you have the cool vintage stuff.

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Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 19, 2016 06:42AM
curmudgeon

may I ask for more info and personal experience about/with the KING neo st-3 stone



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I'm waiting for Stefan Wolf to list his collection, that will probably take up the page.

Well, I have stone or two and will make time to find how many they are smileys with beer

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Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 19, 2016 05:04PM
Here is a old picture of my stones from the Winter of 2014/15:

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I have doubled the size of my collection since. I am in the middle of reorganization of my apartment, so when I get to my sharpening storage and sharpening station, I will take another picture and make a list.

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Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 20, 2016 09:44PM
Stefan,
I have not used the KING neo st-3 stone. I bought it from Tools From Japan. Here is what their website says about the stone.

"The King 'Neo' Waterstones are a relatively new addition to the King lineup, being more of a ceramic stone than their more conventional waterstones.
They are specifically designed for grinding Stainless steel and alloy steel blades, cutting faster and staying flatter for longer.
At #800 grit, these stones are intended for repairing damaged edges and altering/restoring edge geometry quickly and efficiently. They do not require soaking prior to use, a little water on the surface of the stone is sufficient to keep the stone clear of grinding swarf."

Sorry I can't be more help.
Try their website. They have a good selection of Japanese waterstones and diamond stones. Their prices are reasonable here in the US. The dollar compares well against the yen right now.
Here is the url: [www.toolsfromjapan.com]
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 21, 2016 07:00AM
Hmmm. I didn't figure I had much, until I started thinking about it.

DMT 6x2 in 4 grits

DMT 10x4 600g, 8x2 in 220 & 320 on the way

DMT Aligner with 320, 600, 1200, 4k

Shapton Pro in 320, 1k, 5k

Ruixin Fix Angle sharpener. 120-(whatever this one is, it rocks), 320, 600, 1500

2x72 Belt grinder w/ Vari speed- usually used with 220 or 400g AlOx paper.

Strops w/ white and green rouge.

3 Spyderco ceramic sticks & 1 blue one I've never seen elsewhere.

Lansky rubber eraser for cleaning ceramics.

Also using a 60-100x Microscope, but hope to get a USB one soon.

Will likely be building a slow speed vertical disc grinder for some tool sharpening, and also interested in getting a super coarse stone of some sort, until I do. Also debating building an ultra hard polished chef's steel.
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 21, 2016 08:05PM
1confused smileynap-on "carbide" pull through sharpener(Complete junk, the inserts took damage from a cheap chefs knife)
1confused smileymith's pocket pal (combo ceramic and tungsten pull through sharpeners, tapered diamond rod, flashlight, whistle, fire steel, and compass. It has broken in multiple ways and now pretty much useless. Strangely the flashlight is still working despite it being and unsealed and washed multiple times, and most of the other items now broken from very light use.)
1:12"x12"x1" granite tile one side smooth the other rough. (I use this for flattening my water stones on the rough side, and sandpaper sharpening on the smooth side. Fits perfectly in my sink so that I can submerge the stones and it for flattening.)
1:Lansky Deluxe set(Old style clamp. This has the medium serrated hone, medium diamond, coarse, medium and fine stones. I even still have the original oil container that is about half full. This works well for small knives for setting consistent edge bevels and decent sharpness.)

1?:broken pocket hard Arkansas stone(Loved this stone till I broke it)
1confused smileymiths 6" soft Arkansas stone(Not a big fan of it for anything but very light work)

1confused smileypyderco Sharpmaker UF rod(Works well for microbevels, and how I usually get my highest sharpness edges)

2: 24 grit dressing sticks 1x1x8" silicon carbide(Was interesting experimental piece)
1:60 grit diamond dressing stone 8"x2"x1"(Was fun till I wore it smooth)

1: Mystery 6"x2" diamond 400/800(Still one of the best buys for the price for a light weight diamond stone)
1:Accusharp tapered diamond pocket rod(Still working on this one)
2:Accusharp diamond 300/700 grit pocket stones(Very functional and flat, and locally available to me)
1grinning smileyMT Diasharp 6" XC/C (So far lives up to the reviews)
1grinning smileyMT Diasharp 6" F/XF(So far lives up to the reviews)
1grinning smileyMT Diafold EF/EEF (Works well for touchups, but the EEF still has issues with larger scratches)

1:Norton 6" combo coarse/fine silicon carbide stone(this is now just a Fine side)
1:Norton 8" combo coarse/fine silicon carbide stone(Very strong bonded stone. My oldest stone that I still have and it is heavily dished still, currently working to flatten it)
1:mystery 8" coarse/fine aluminum oxide stone(Came chipped, twisted and bowed. Once flattened worked well but it a little softer then my Norton 8", but loads quickly and isn't well liked by me)

1:King 1K 7"x2"x1/2" (Its a King 1K)
1:King 6K 7"x2"x1/2" (Its a King 6K)
1confused smileyuehiro Chemical 300 5.5"x2"x3/4" (Very hard, and slow to release new abrasive. Can almost be used splash and go, less then a minute soak is all that is needed. You can even apex on this stone. It did have issues initially but now is a decent low grit stone. Oddly it can put a finish higher then my King 1K.)
1:Taidea "3k/8k" 7"x2.25"x1" (Very muddy on 3K side, 8K a little less so. Does not create a finish like any 3K or 8K I have seen online. Very difficult to apex on without edge trailing. Produces decent working edges though. I would rate the grit though at around 2K for the 3K side, and 4K for the 8K side.)
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 22, 2016 07:15AM
Here are my entire collection. Not my pictures except for the grinder.

Buck 3 stone sharpener.



Spyderco Sharpmaker. With extra coarse and Ultra Fine rod that I carry in my backpack.



Spyderco UF stone.



DMT 6 Inch Dia Sharp coarse/fine.



Grinder with an array of belts.

Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 22, 2016 08:27AM
Love that grinder! That big wheel is impressive as well.

-Edit- Will cut out the questions to keep the thread on track....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2016 08:29AM by Any Cal..
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 22, 2016 01:51PM
Any Cal.-
Ask questions! We never stay on track of a post. That's why there a search bar. Also, if the post starts talking about something else, I won't have to inventory and list my stuff! (Hopefully eye popping smiley)

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2016 01:52PM by jasonstone20.
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 23, 2016 04:23AM
Ahhh, ok. What size is that wheel? Belt speed? Is that a 2" wide belt? Just a clean looking grinder!
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 25, 2016 09:16AM
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Any Cal.
Ahhh, ok. What size is that wheel? Belt speed? Is that a 2" wide belt? Just a clean looking grinder!

It is a 12 Inch contact wheel with a 1 inch belt with a length of 78.7 inch (2 meter) fitted currently.

However, the grinder has the capacity to be fitted with a 21.6 (550mm) 1 inch contact wheel (far future purchase for me).

If you also look at the picture you will see my flat platen lying on the grinder. That has 2 inch thickness capacity.

Here is the company in South Africa where I bought it (ps I am in South Africa)

[www.herbst.co.za]

Some product info:

The Ultimate grinder is a heavy duty grinder with a robust design. It is especially useful for grinding, bevelling, de-burring, de-scaling, polishing, finishing and knife sharpening. The Ultimate is any knife-maker’s dream machine, with so many options from hollow grinding to flat grinding or radius grinding with the small wheel attachment to buffing with the buff attachment this machine can do it all. The unique design of the Ultimate makes it possible for horizontal and vertical operation. Quick easy belt change with positive dynamic belt tracking which has been proven and perfected on the Ultimate since 1988. The Ultimate features a 300 mm x 25 mm contact disc wheel and a 150 mm x 50 mm or 200 mm x 50 mm drive wheel.

I do not have all the attachments, just the basic machine but the reason I bought it is because of its multiple attachments (space is a problem for me currently) until one can buy dedicated grinders for certain applications (and I have more space).

Leroy-Somer three phase 0.75kw motor is fitted. I can run from 40 rpm up to too fast to feel comfortable standing in front of the machine smiling smiley

Here is an 18 inch wheel on a similar build grinder.



Here is a quick video some time ago. My setup has changed significantly.

video: [www.youtube.com]

All and all, a very capable grinder. Huge investment for me but hope to get to grinding on a few of my knives shortly as work allows. Busy working on handles currently and getting to understand my end mills.
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
January 25, 2016 09:23AM
Very nice. The attachments are neat as well. It looks like a versatile, well made system.
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
April 01, 2016 07:24AM
My wee collection has been amassed over the course of my career as a Joiner and has been added to, as required, since I got into high performance cutlery. All the stuff works pretty well for different applications but I would like to add to the low end 120-400 grit for heavy work.

DMT

8" x 3" DuoSharp 600/1200
8" x 3" DiaSharp 1200
6" x 2" DiaSharp 8000
4" x 2" Pocket Diamond whetstone 600
600 grit DiaSharp Mini Hone
1200 grit DiaSharp Mini hone

ATOMA

400 grit 'Economy' Plate 75mm x 200mm
140 grit 'Homemade edge pro plate'
600 grit 'Homemade edge pro plate'
1200 grit 'Homemade edge pro plate'

For the homemade plates I bought the full size (75mm x 200mm) replacement diamond top sheets from www.fine-tools.com, made three edge pro sized platens from aluminium, cut the diamond sheets with a hacksaw and cleaned them up with a 2nd cut file and VHB bonded them together. This worked out cheaper than buying them pre-made from ChefKnivesToGo and I was left with the remaining replacement diamond bits to make 50mm wide bench hones. I still haven't done that yet but 1200 grit Atoma is my favourite apex finish for most knives so I'll do it sometime.

Sigma

Sigma power Select 2 1200 grit
Sigma power Select 2 6000 grit
Sigma power Select 2 13000 grit

The SPSII 6000 grit stone is one of my favourite apex finishes for kitchen knives. It is a very hard stone and doesn't form a slurry readily, however for a 6000 grit stone it seems to cut quite quickly with 500-700grams of force. I haven't tried it on any HSS or high carbide steels. I use the 400 grit Atoma to condition this.

The 13000 grit stone is odd. It doesn't seem to refine the edge from the 6000 grit stone that much but to be honest, 6000 grit is more than sufficient. The 13k stone came as part of the set listed above from Stu as Tools From Japan. very reasonably priced it was too.

Shapton

Glass stone 500 grit
Glass stone 1000 grit
Glass stone 2000 grit
Glass stone 4000 grit

All of the above are Edge Pro sized stones and to be honest they were a bit of a silly impulse purchase. I haven't used them very much but the 2k Glass Stone is a nice stone for micro bevelling, giving a good balance of push cutting ability and aggression for slicing.

Edge Pro Apex

I upgraded the pivot arm with a rod-end bushing to eliminate slop. I do use the edge pro when I want to try "exact" apex angles. It is great for consistency especially as I have a notebook with records of every knife I have sharpened; bevel angle, micro bevel angle, apex finish etc.

I have the full set of EP stones

120 grit
240 grit
400 grit
600 grit
1200 grit

Other stones

Norton 8000 grit waterstone

King 1000/6000 combination stone

Other sharpening stuff

3M PSA-backed micro-finishing films: I have 10mm thick float glass platens (flat to 0.0005" as measured) I stick these to.

0.3micron
0.5 micron
3 micron
5 micron

CBN emulsion

2 micron
0.5 micron

DMT Diamond paste

1 micron
3 micron
6 micron

Diamond spray. Manufactured by Kemet, a company here in the UK who specialise in lapping and micro finishing.

0.25 micron

Disposable hard/dense grade balsa wood strops, 75mm x 250mm x 12mm thick. I've moved away from stropping but I still have these for polishing the backs of chisels and general messing around with edges.

I also have a Veritas (Lee Valley) Cast Iron lapping plate with loose SiC grit in a number of grades. I used this once for lapping a block plane and it worked like a charm. Since then it has sat on a shelf, wrapped in VCI paper.

Cheers,
Andy



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2016 07:49AM by grimpeur.
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
April 01, 2016 07:36AM
I forgot to add a couple of powered devices:

Tormek T7

The quintessential slow speed wet grinder. I've used it on axes to reshape the edge and a couple of gardening knives but mostly on my Lie-Nielsen A2 plane irons and chisels This is an extremely good machine, I just haven't really used it on my knives.

Belt grinder

Its a cheap bench model that takes a fairly random sized belt, 50mm x 686mm. I believe it is similar to the one that RS-Travis used. I have new Norton seeded gel ceramic belts in 60 and 120 grit, these are made by a belt convertor here in the UK. I chose them because they work well at low grinding pressures and speeds and are designed for use on hardened steels, they seem to work very well.

I don't use it to sharpen, however I am in the middle of a careful regrind of an S30V Paramilitary 2, its going really well actually. I use a garden mister to wet the belt and keep things as cool as I can; a light, careful pass on one side and a spray of water on the belt and the knife. Slow going but It's exciting to have the facility. I'll post the results once its done.
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
April 01, 2016 03:21PM
Oh Lord, I'm not sure I'm prepared to look at the size of this list once posted!

Diamond plates

DMT XXC
DMT XC
DMT F
DMT XXF

Atoma 140
Atoma 400
Atoma 1200

Solid sintered ceramic stones
Spyderco Sharpmaker M/F/UF rods
Spyderco M/F/UF Bench stones

Friable stones designed to be used with oil

Norton India coarse/fine
Norton Crystolon coarse/fine
TASK Garden Hone

Friable stones designed to be used with water

Naniwa Chosera 400
Naniwa Aotoshi 2,000
Naniwa Junpaku 8,000
Naniwa Superstone 12,000

Bester 1,200
Suehiro-Rika 5,000

Sigma Power Select II 240
Sigma Power Select II 1,000
Sigma Power Select II 3,000
Sigma Power Select II 6,000
Sigma Power Select II 10,000
Sigma Power Select II 13,000

Diamond/CBN compounds for use on strops
0.25 mciron diamond
0.50 micron diamond
1.00 micron diamond
2.00 micron CBN
4.00 micron CBN
8.00 micron CBN
16.00 micron CBN

Strops
Several hanging leather strops I have made myself out of various strips of leather and hardware acquired from Tandy Leather.

What do I actually use?

Norton Crystolon coarse charged with TASK grit for thinning down primary grinds

Atoma 140 for cutting in edge-bevels and flattening stones

SPS-II stones as they cut fastest with the light force i prefer to use.

A hanging leather strop loaded with 8.0 micron CBN (I've been trying out stropping to create convex micro-bevels. I will start a thread about it eventually).
KWB
Re: What sharpening implements do you own? Stones, diamonds, etc.
April 04, 2016 02:29AM
I use atoma 400,1200 and rare occasions spyderco medium. That being said I set edges on the grinder and refine by hand.

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